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Since you ended this, be quiet and don't spam me with notification. by zeroxxxreason: douchebag behaviour |
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24 hours ago | mod | Removed Comment Perhaps they don't support terrorism? by @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldreason: Rule 2 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment Believe what you want, but I don't downvote comments that are contributing to the conversation even if I don't agree with them. Imaginary internet points don't mean anything.
This is not about my comment in particular. It's about how the modlog clearly shows that the mods have removed all comments critical of Hamas and banned the users. If you read further into the modlog an even more problematic trend of them censoring anything they don't agree with emerges using rule 1 as a guise. by @root@withachanceof.comreason: Rule 1 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment Wait to criticize Hamas is supporting terrorism? Can you tie that in somehow for me? I'm not a supporter of how the IDF is dealing with things because of all the civilian casualties in gaza, but I don't have to support Hamas to have that opinion. by @Grizzly_Biscuit@lemmy.worldreason: Rule 1 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Post Why are the mods here removing any comments critical of Hamas? reason: Rule 1 |
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1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment Yeah, plus that hardly describes just Palestine and Israel, more "humanity, as a whole". It's just rarely as openly on displayed that it's all fucked up. Plus, as long as ideologic and religious believes can hold **any** sway in organizing states or populations, this will never ever ever cease. by Carighan Maconarreason: Rule 1 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment I (early GenX) grew up with: it is an ugly conflict between two evil sides who do not hold back to kill. When agreements are reached, there is always one side who breaches the agreements. Periodic killing returns in a continuous cycle. At the end of every period the conflict hardens and borders are moved.
I have not changed my opinion. I have not seen an eye opener in the past months.
SNAFU: Situation Normal, All Fucked Up by itsamereason: Rule 1 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment I know you mean well, but although neither side is wholly anything I can advocate, even after seeing Palestine, if I had to choose, I side with Israel. I don't care how persecuted you are, you simply do not kill random civilians. That would fall under indiscriminate escalation, which is different from just having a conflict with someone because each of the different levels of escalation, when surpassed, by definition mark the escalator as an antagonist (especially when not just in Israel; the Jewish committee in America have been threatened, so much that [the unions are distancing themselves](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minneapolis-teachers-union-backtracks-on-israel-hamas-war-resolution-we-regret-this/ar-AA1kDlqo?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=b5354f2dbe72426585a04cce19b0ebee&ei=17) and multiple Jewish American leaders have been killed). And they did it on an Israeli holiday (which adds an extra challenge to them explaining why what's going on isn't antisemitic; one of their defenses is "Israeli citizens exist on stolen land, therefore they are thieves and the best punishment for thievery is death" which is almost a word-for-word paraphrasing of Axis Germany's defense).
Israel in comparison, though they've been haughty in how they deal with their neighbors, have been operating under just that, a broken sense of arrogance. If you're wondering, I do despise what Israel has done to Palestine, and the escalations by Palestine and Hamas don't take away from the fact that Israel is guilty, enough that I question US involvement in Israel, especially when the US is already involved in India. I have always known what all three countries are doing to Palestine/Pakistan and it feels like they've been stabbing the bear for so long, like someone who acquires a garden but doesn't nourish its flowers. But it's not something I look at and think "look at how suffering they are, I fully understand why they did what they did now". No I don't. You don't engage in an all-out assault, start a campaign of guerilla warfare which is more psychologically profound, drag Russia and North Korea onto your side just because "they're you're enemies' enemies", and lie when you do commit tragic accidents like the hospital bombings, which nobody doubts was Hamas' and Palestine's doing except them and half their peers (which I understand they cling to because it would foil their original plan of wanting the Saudis to step out of relations with Israel). As a technical LGBT member, I also don't want to say I 100% trust Palestine to be in control anymore than Israel, as that's an internal struggle all on its own. by Call me Lenny/Lenireason: Rule 1 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment > What opened your eyes to what's happening in Palestine?
Gee, that's assuming quite a bit right out of the gate.
> We’re a group of activists in a Western country
Care to name yourselves then or do I just take it on faith this isn't astroturfing? This whole post is pure propaganda.
While I have sympathy for the average peaceful person living in these areas, Hamas is a terrorist organization. Bring on the downvotes. by fooreason: Rule 1 |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment I had the opposite journey. I used to be more sympathetic to Palestinian side until this war started. Most people and media around me are pro-Palestinian.
But it's not the whole story. This is a situation where no side is clean or innocent. So many Palestinians support Hamas that it's hard to have sympathy. Yes, they lived under occupation for decades, but learned all the wrong lessons - how to be just as bad as Israel.
The fight is more evenly matched than you suggest. Israel may be winning militarily, but Hamas has the better media presence, and is winning hearts and minds of people around the world. Every dead Palestinian benefits Hamas more than it benefits Israel. They know it, and use it to the fullest extent. by @flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyzreason: Rule 1 |
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1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment You looked at my reply to your comment and thought I was being serious? by @fosforus@sopuli.xyzreason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment > recalibrate and come to senses by @streetfestival@lemmy.careason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment It isn't proven Israel is committing genocide and it seems laughable to compare this to the holocaust which many critical of Israel do. by ZahzenEclipsereason: bad comment chain |
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1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment >Perhaps all the people who would downvote me have already blocked me ;-)
There's no downvote on Beehaw. And I don't get what's funny about being blocked by other users on a server that seeks to promote kindness and tolerance. by Kajo [he/him] 🌈reason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment Perhaps all the people who would downvote me have already blocked me ;-)
But seriously, this is not whataboutism. It's an appeal to recalibrate and come to senses, and most importantly, not dilute an important and serious concept like genocide. Even what happened/is happening in Ukraine is probably not a genocide even though I'm happily 100% against Russia. by @fosforus@sopuli.xyzreason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment You're being a little obtuse by ZahzenEclipsereason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment How? by ZahzenEclipsereason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment [@Stormyfemme](https://beehaw.org/u/Stormyfemme) I don't know, but it's pretty odd.
fosforus effectively just argued that the population of Gaza has been growing since Oct 7, which is a pretty absurd claim under the circumstances.
(As well as being based on a fallacious idea that attempted genocides have to be successful in order to count). by livusreason: bad comment chain |
1 day ago | mod | Removed Comment This is just a weird whataboutism why is this being upvoted by @Stormyfemme@beehaw.orgreason: bad comment chain |
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